VeganPizza69 ⓋⒶ<p>🧵3/3</p><p>The product fantasy of this "meat", raw or not, from whatever animal, is a strange thing. </p><p>It is presented in this naturalistic fallacy wrapper, which wraps around an appeal to tradition fallacy wrapper, which actually wraps an empty box of hope that's actually techno-hopium: </p><p>It is about a "meat technology", and I don't mean just zootechny. </p><p>It's the technology of extracting scarce "dense nutrients", nutrient mining. And so it carries the status of luxury... and not just any luxury, but luxury that provides "powers". </p><p>The "powers" aspect is important for the fantasy, for biohacking. Much like the "nofap" types believe in powers from semen retention, the carnivores believe in other powers that they gain. And those powers are useful in the rat race, to dominate others, to win. In their fantasy.</p><p>Vegans aren't immune from such beliefs, especially raw vegans; I bet that those are more likely to go from vegan to ex-vegan to carnivore on their "journey".</p><p>Anyway, in the old days, this would be a talk about magical beliefs. They're treating meat like an alchemical potion from fantasy games. In modern times, this is about pseudoscience, a power-up.</p><p>Any sufficiently obscure pseudoscience is indistinguishable from magic.</p><p>That's the spirit of advertising these uber-carnist diets. </p><p>MEAT is sold to these "high-status males" (seeking) like those science-fiction pills from last century, those pills that contained all the nutrients and you could replace an entire meal by swallowing a couple of those pills. </p><p>They are not actually selling some true paleo diet, they're selling a fantasy of the past packaged as science-fantasy present: </p><p>The 🥩red pill. </p><p>And the extra layer of grift, because it appeals to extremely ignorant people, is that it works on the conspiracy logic easily: </p><p>"the meat pill technology was always there, it was just being hidden by a globalist conspiracy!" </p><p>The retroactive implication that the meat power-gaining solution was always there is following the scam method of making the target think that they were always right, that they are smart without knowing that they are smart. That's like a drug for fools and people who believe that they were born perfect.</p><p>Of course, the meat pill works only so much for marketing, so it's usually accompanied by supplements. </p><p>The conspiracy aspects, which are also seen in the denial of science, are a very obvious funnel to fascist beliefs, with an ecofascist bent. </p><p>The retroactive implication of the grift, with its conspiracy, is that common one in fascism: the myth of being fallen. Whether it's fallen from some paradise or fallen from space or fallen from the top of the "food chain", it's about The Fall. </p><p>In the paleo-conspiracy, humans, at least a certain... "subspecies" of humans, fell from the glorious past of maximally manly men when the evil Poaceae plants enslaved him 10000 years ago, and it has just gotten worse with industrial agriculture. The grifters promote a cure for The Fall, a restoration to well deserved glory. </p><p>The palingenesis consists of that rebirth as Fred Flintstone barbarian macho man model of extremely toxic masculinity.</p><p>The nation, however, isn't necessarily identified by nationality. In some cases, it can be, if the nation is based on settler-colonialism which usually came with pastoralist entrepreneurs (very European). But the nation can simply be any cult, any religion, any ethnicity, any special tribe, united in spirit. </p><p>The Nation of Meatflakes. </p><p>These are not harmless movements, fascism is never harmless. </p><p>More reading on my pinned thread. 🧵n</p><p><a href="https://veganism.social/tags/fascism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>fascism</span></a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/meatflake" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>meatflake</span></a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/goVegan" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>goVegan</span></a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/ecofascism" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>ecofascism</span></a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/paleo" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>paleo</span></a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/paleoDiet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>paleoDiet</span></a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/meatPolitics" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>meatPolitics</span></a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/grifting" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>grifting</span></a> <a href="https://veganism.social/tags/meatScam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#<span>meatScam</span></a></p>
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"The Right’s ‘Natural’ Meat Obsession Is a Regressive Fantasy" by @sentientmedia
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Another component for Kennedy of what constitutes “natural” is taking on things like red food dye, seed oils and ultra-processed foods — while promoting tallow, raw milk and grass-fed beef.
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https://sentientmedia.org/mahas-natural-foods-obsession/
Vegans often are faced with fallacious arguments, and one of the most common is the Naturalistic fallacy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalistic_fallacy
However, this is often a bad faith disguise. The use of naturalistic fallacies in these contexts, such as the claim that consuming animals is "good" because it's natural, is a disguise for another more insidious fallacy: the traditionalist fallacy or "appeal to tradition".
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition
The traditionalist fallacy is, in this context, the argument that "consuming animals is good because we've done it for thousands of years".
Traditionalism is heavily political, as the people are finding out again in places such as the US. It's sometimes known as "paleoconservatism", and it should be no surprise that the popularity of the "paleo diet" culturally connects to this.
Conservatives, ever since the rise of modernity (end of 'traditional' society, end of monarchism and feudalism) have been trying to reinvent the past through pseudointellectual and pseudoscientific efforts. This has been at the heart of incredible amounts of suffering and horror since then. I have some notes on that on my pinned thread: https://veganism.social/deck/@veganpizza69/110813538364525265
Bullshit & snake oil are not vegan.
Sentient · The Right’s ‘Natural’ Meat Obsession Is a Regressive FantasyThe rise of the carnivore diet, and the search for simplicity.
Loving the discussion surrounding this @PNASNews publication on Phanerozoic #paleo #temperature evolution, one of the most interesting #paleoclimate discussions in my opinion.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2400434121
Critique: 6-10 degrees #tropical #ocean #temperatures during the #Ordovician seem very low to me, especially considering that in this time (450 million years ago) corals were thriving. The critical comment by Ethan Grossman and colleagues therefore seems fitting.
Congratulations to Elisa Ziegler and the Palmod co-authors on the new paper on #paleo #climatechange in the journal Climate of the Past 
Our new paper looks into systematic changes in higher-order moments of temperature and precipitation distributions based on 
simulations of the 27000 years of climate. This is interesting, because from the 
Glacial Maximum 21 thousand years ago to today the 
warmed by around 5 degrees
, leading to the loss of ice sheets over the Deglaciation, and culminating in the warm Holocene -- every step of the way led to changes in climate dynamics 
.
https://cp.copernicus.org/articles/21/627/2025/
Thanks to @bmbf_bund @soef_bmbf for funding and our great collaborators in Hamburg @MPI_Meteo, Leeds, Bristol, Bern
A contribution to the Palmod project www.palmod.de
Created with AI.
Laboratory technology goes back further than many people think. Even the earliest Neanderthals donned their lab coats and achieved incredible results.
#neanderthals #neanderthal #stoneage #cromagnon #paleo #paleotology #paleoart #bonfire #bonfires #ai #aiart #aiartcommunity #aiartwork #aiartist #aiartists #aigenerated #laboratory #labtech #labtechnician #labcoat #stablediffusion #adobefirefly
Laboratory technology goes back further than many people think. Even the earliest Neanderthals donned their lab coats and achieved incredible results.
#neanderthals #neanderthal #stoneage #cromagnon #paleo #paleotology #paleoart #bonfire #bonfires #ai #aiart #aiartcommunity #aiartwork #aiartist #aiartists #aigenerated #laboratory #labtech #labtechnician #labcoat #stablediffusion #adobefirefly
Ancient humans ate a wide variety of plants, study shows, debunking the efficacy of the paleo diet. @ScienceAlert has more:
ScienceAlert · Paleo Diet Debunked: Ancient Humans Ate Plants, Study ShowsClaims that we ought to subscribe to a low-carb, high-protein 'paleo diet' are typically based on assertions our ancestors avoided complicated plant processing in favor of simpler meals consisting of meats, nuts, fruit, and raw vegetables.
Keto vs Paleo diet: Experts suggest which one to pick for guaranteed weight loss https://www.diningandcooking.com/1785897/keto-vs-paleo-diet-experts-suggest-which-one-to-pick-for-guaranteed-weight-loss/ #Keto #KetoDiet #KetogenicDiet #nutrition #Paleo #PaleoDiet #PaleolithicEra #Parmesan #Zuccini
it's #SauropodSunday , and today were celebrating this paper, in which most of the backbones formerly known as Saurophaganax are promoted to sauropod status! Congratulations to the dinosaur bones formerly known as Saurophaganax. A few remaining odds and ends were used to describe the new species Allosaurus anax, the third species in the genus Allosaurus.
https://svpow.com/2024/12/22/about-that-saurophaganax-paper/
https://journals.library.ualberta.ca/vamp/index.php/VAMP/article/view/29404
Sauropod Vertebra Picture of the Week · About that Saurophaganax paper
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this kind of thing is one reason paleomagnetic latitude estimates are usually ±10 degrees:
https://www.sciencealert.com/the-magnetic-north-pole-has-officially-changed-position
ScienceAlert · The Magnetic North Pole Has Officially Changed PositionIt's time to recalibrate the navigation systems on ships, airplanes, and (given the time of year) Santa's sleigh: the position of the magnetic North Pole is officially being changed, continuing its shift away from Canada and towards Siberia.
Years ago, I went on the (terribly-titled) paleo diet because it worked for me. I had a lot of issues with grain, with lentils, and with a few of the other no-no foods on the diet. I had a terrible time finding any sort of restaurant where I could eat anything other than a plain tossed salad, so I was really excited when I found a restaurant that advertised itself as serving paleo foods. I went in and looked at the menu and was immediately confused. Most of the items didn't seem to be paleo, even though they were listed as such.
I called the waitstaff over to ask them what the bun on the paleo burger was made of. They looked at me like I'd lost my mind. "It's a bun? So, like flour and stuff?"
"But that's not paleo," I said. "Are there grains and such in the meat, too?"
"I don't know," she said. "I just cook the stuff."
I ended up leaving without eating because I couldn't be sure the food wouldn't make me sick. But seriously, how does the cook not know what they are cooking?
I don't eat nearly as restrictively now, but I do still have to be very careful with what I eat. My gut issues have a tendency of flaring up if I don't pamper them.
#paleo #food #FalseAdvertising #FadDiet #Whole30 #ChronicIllness
#NewSpecies!
New cenozoic sea snail from #netherlands just came in:
Favartia jansseni
Treatment: http://treatment.plazi.org/id/D34B3691-CAE8-4FB4-9492-05EFDF71FCD3
Publication: http://doi.org/10.5252/geodiversitas2024v46a15
#Geodiversitas #FavartiaJansseni
#FAIRdata
#science #OA #openaccess #biology #taxonomy #ecology #biodiversity #nature #wildlife #conservation #animals #malacology #snails #seasnail #cenozoic #fossils #paleo
Noshing on a paleolithically pretentious Hu Nut Butter Filled Hazelnut Butter Dark Chocolate, an impulse purchase. It's Italian.
I'm buying nothing but Italian products from now on.
Hu should be an element.
Ein neues #Brettspiel kennen gelernt und gleich süchtig danach: #Paleo 
Ein kooperatives Spiel, bei dem man eine Gruppe an Steinzeitmenschen durch allerlei Gefahren lotsen muss, um schlussendlich eine Höhlenmalerei zu vollenden, ohne dass die Menschensippe den Widrigkeiten zum Opfer fällt 
A lezione dall’uomo primitivo https://www.rivistastudio.com/cacciatore-raccoglitore-genitore/ #Paleo #Mode
Rivista Studio · A lezione dall'uomo primitivoLibri, diete, persino l'educazione dei figli: l'ultimo trend che, stando ai suoi sostenitori, dovrebbe migliorarci la vita sostiene che l'esempio da seguire sia l'uomo primitivo.