nigel<p><strong>Update: domain unsuspended!</strong></p>Porkbun took a dim view of the outcome apparently; overnight they went into bat for me while I slept and have now sorted it with XYZ! I have updated them with the responses from Spamhaus and are going to follow up on that as well. Honestly I am super impressed with Porkbun after this. Faith in (some of) humanity restored. Especially their staff member Steve.<br><br> <br><p><strong>TLDR: Be wary using XYZ owned domains</strong></p>What a fucking debacle. I purchased a cheap <i>.quest</i> domain to run my xmpp server on for my family and a few close friends. It was on sale, was cheap and I grabbed it.<br>It lasted less than 24 hours before being suspended by the regsistrar.<br><br>Turns out, it ended up on a spamhaus list, and XYZ suspends domains automatically based on that. I have lodged tickets with each, but can't rectify because:<br>- Spamhaus issues can't be rectified because the domain is locked<br>- XYZ won't unsuspend because it is still on the Spamhaus blocklist<br><br>Chicken and egg. I have tickets with each, and with Porkbun which is where I started.<br>I get it. It's a fucking great scam to bleed money from spammers when they snap up cheap domains.<br><br>I just wanted one to self-host xmpp for my family though, and am now caught up in the loop sadly.<br><br>It is extremely unlikely I will purchase any other <a href="https://xyz.xyz/#our-domains" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">XYZ owned domains</a> (there are a lot, and some fun ones sadly).<br><br>Spamhaus in itself isn't necessarily a bad thing; it is a great tool. But automatically flagging everything listed by it in your registrar? Yeah nah fuck that. XYZ using external blocklists where everything is <b>automatically opted in with no practical recourse</b> is a terrible idea. The same goes for domains, fedi, whatever. There is always collateral damage and it sours it for everyone. It is just a stupid.<br><br><a href="https://snac.lowkey.party?t=spamhaus" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#spamhaus</a> <a href="https://snac.lowkey.party?t=domains" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#domains</a> <a href="https://snac.lowkey.party?t=domain" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#domain</a> <a href="https://snac.lowkey.party?t=dns" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#DNS</a> <a href="https://snac.lowkey.party?t=xyz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#XYZ</a> <a href="https://snac.lowkey.party?t=spam" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#spam</a> <a href="https://snac.lowkey.party?t=blocklist" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#blocklist</a> <a href="https://snac.lowkey.party?t=porkbun" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#porkbun</a><br>